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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: slothe equally mission runners shouldnt insult pvpers, all pvpers are not griefers. if you mission run expect some interference as long as its not TRULY griefing.
Why do people keep bringing up PvPers? This thread isn't about PvPers vs. mission runners. It's about griefers vs. mission runners. If you jump into someone else's mission in high-sec, and start stealing their loot/rats, you aren't PvPing. You're there to grief. If you were there to PvP, you would open fire. If you're interested in PvP, you would be in low-sec (or 0.0).
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Raste I didnt read the whole thread so if this has already been mentioned I apoligize, but anyway...I hope mission runners get griefed and ganked straight out of empire. :)
But then you won't have anywhere to go once Redswarm has run you out of 0.0.
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop I have to say with 500k subscriptions and 40k online, a few mission runners wont be missed.
Empire dwellers make up the overwhelming majority of the playerbase (and CCP's revenue).
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: Mr dummy
Originally by: Harisdrop I have to say with 500k subscriptions and 40k online, a few mission runners wont be missed.
Empire dwellers make up the overwhelming majority of the playerbase (and CCP's revenue).
Most are there because its easy.
Most are there because you have to have several million SP to join your typical 0.0 alliance. And that takes months. So they are stuck rotting in empire space until they meet the minimum SP requirements.
At least they could run lousy missions for lousy pay until they met those minimum requirements. Now they can't even do that.
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop Edited by: Harisdrop on 06/12/2006 19:22:29 Maybe I missed something.
Can you have recourse for the actions of the griefers?
No. Read the descriptions that are given for how griefers do what they do. There is nothing you can do except attack them. If they player is less than a month old, that's not going to happen. You'll die.
And in the off-chance you win, you're still out the time that you should have been running missions and making isk.
Quote: Can you war-dec them?
No. They are in empire because they have no money. They are in the newbie corp because they have no SP.
Quote: Maybe you need to have a change of location
Are you offering to let 1 month old charcaters run missions in D2 space?
Quote: and get some protection.
Are you offering to protect 1 month old mission runners? Are you suggesting that a group of 1 month old mission runners get together to kill that 10m SP griefer? Because I guarantee the the griefer can win against any number of month-old characters.
Quote: Why does there have to be a game mechanic to keep you happy?
To keep them in the game, and paying CCP.
Quote: I would not let them slap me in the face more than once. What did your mamma say. Shame on you first time.
So why don't you tell us exactly what you would do with a month-old character who is being griefed by a year-old, 12M SP player. Please be specific.
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mr dummy on 06/12/2006 19:58:38 Edited by: Mr dummy on 06/12/2006 19:54:03
Originally by: Harisdrop Edited by: Harisdrop on 06/12/2006 19:43:15
Originally by: OldPueblo Its really funny the amount of times that wardecs have been offered as a solution in this thread when its nowhere near a solution. Please people, you're making yourselves look dumb. READ.
Why do you think wardecs are dumb?
They aren't dumb. But people who suggest them as a solution to being griefed are dumb. As I've already explained, a wardec isn't an option for a month old player who is getting griefed trying to run missions. Wardecs cost money that new players simply don't have access to. If theyhad that kind of money, they wouldn't be running missions in Empire.
Quote: When I was in Empire I lived for the war dec. I knew that I was fighting for something.
Wardecs are fun. But only if you're in a 0.0 alliance.
Quote: EVE has become soft. I like being hard.
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Mr dummy
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Posted - 2006.12.06 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mr dummy on 06/12/2006 20:17:15
Originally by: Harisdrop OK soo you guys are worried that some griefer is attacking a level 1 mission pilot. ... There would be no gain for the griefer with 1k rats.
Horray! You finally understand: there's no gain to the griefer. That's what makes it griefing!
Quote: I dont think the level 1 pilot would be targeted again.
Except that this is exactly what has been happening. Read the patch notes. People have been running in on missions, grabbing aggro, stealing mission-specific loot (with little-to-no value to anyone but the mission runner), and running off.
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